Joe Biden says Gabby Giffords was “mortally wounded”

biden-debt-meetingSomeone get Joe Biden a dictionary.

According to the Vice President, former Arizona Congresswoman Gabby Giffords was “mortally wounded.”

“Think about what happened out in — when Gabby Giffords, my good friend, was shot and mortally wounded,” Biden said during a gun control press conference on Thursday morning.

Biden held the press conference with New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg, as well as family members of shooting victims. The group was pushing for what they call “common sense” gun control legislation.

Bloomberg argued that all Americans support President Obama’s gun control proposals.

“There’s no real debate among the American people,” he said.

Bloomberg and Biden should probably get their facts straight. There is an intense gun rights debate currently raging in the United States. And, Joe — Giffords didn’t die.

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  1. ckehoss says:

    Are you suggesting he should have referred to the 20 first graders in order to make a point. I find this sort of rhetoric nasty and a feeble (at best) attempt to thwart a goodwill message about change. Whether you are a gun advocate or a child advocate, we all need to learn how to listen to the heartfelt appeals for change as opposed to the technicality of misused but closely related terminology.

    1. Ken says:

      I agree ckehoss, I think you need to “learn how to listen to the heartfelt appeals for change” from Colion Noir.

      1. ckehoss says:

        Myth: Chicago and DC Are Worst for Gun Violence Despite Gun Safety Laws
        http://election.democraticunderground.com/1262933

        1. CriticalThinking says:

          First off, citing DU on partisan issues is as worthwhile as citing Stormfront on race relations or Conservapedia on science. That’s not to mention this is a strawman misrepresentation of the gun rights position. That said, context is everything and the numbers cited are meaningless in a vacuum. Raw numbers don’t tell the story. Change over time in response to gun control legislation and comparison to total national crime (as opposed to rate comparisons) tell the story. 4 cities with extremely restrictive gun laws only possess about 5% of the population but represent 20% of murders (Chicago, D.C., Detroit, NYC). D.C. and Chicago, the two cities mentioned by you, have murder and violent crime rates that have exploded since their gun bans. For example D.C.’s murder rate has more than doubled, while the average large city (which don’t forget includes the weighting of such drastic increases in gun control cities) has had murder and violent crime slightly decline. The largest declines happened in cities and states the liberalized gun laws. The largest increases happened in cities and states with restrictive gun laws. All but one city experiencing significant crime rate rises are gun restrictive locales. Next time you choose to talk about a “myth”, it may behoove you to take the care to vet your sources.

          1. Bo says:

            Myth my buttox. The only myth about gun violence and deaths reported in the large city Like Chicago, D.C., Detroit and others are just facts that liberals try to cover up and not address. Please give it a rest, wake up and look at the facts, but they won’t fit your liberal addenda.

          2. ckehoss says:

            Myth: Chicago and DC Are Worst for Gun Violence Despite Gun Safety Laws
            http://election.democraticunderground.com/1262933

          3. Bo says:

            Lol. I must be on drugs or wrote to wrong comment. Someone said it is a myth that Chicago and DC have the highest rate of crime and gun violence etc. I believe this to be true. Politicians will not address these issues since they have a no gun ban and strict gun laws. I say how can this be a myth? You say someone buys a gun in Michigan and brings to Chicago. Ok? I’m saying the laws aren’t working for this reason. I don’t understand so are u saying this is a myth or I just on drugs. Either way you lost me? Lol

          4. ckehoss says:

            SOMETHING TELLS ME IT IS EASY TO LOSE YOU.

          5. Bo says:

            Bare with me now. What I’m saying is Chicago and other cities who have strict gun laws or no guns allowed still have ended up with the highest ratings on violence. Crooks are going to go to Michigan and where ever it takes to purchase or steal guns. Ok, the law abiding citizen will not. I’m saying these gun bans and strict laws are not doing a thing than hurting the law abiding citizens. Criminals do not follow laws. So what does these laws really do. To the people who despise guns it helps the politicians future election. It does nothing to help these sense less tragities. It does nothing to bring these cities ratings on violence down. It is just a political ploy to help some politicians. So basically the politicians are the problem as much as the crimals. It’s what ever benigits them. It’s sad that politicians use tragities for their own benifits. How heartless. Ok where is, or what part is myth. Please explaine to this brain on drugs for me. Thanks

        2. Bo says:

          That is totally correct despite Chicago’s no gun laws they are number one in gun violence. I can not believe that the people and politicians don’t take heed at this wondrous feet they have achieved. Number one in the nation with your strictest gun laws on the book. No guns allowed in the city of Chicago. Why don’t you Mr mayor explain how well your gun control is working for you, after all you are number one. God bless the victims of gun violence in Chicago.

          1. ckehoss says:

            This is a very complicated answer but I will try to simplify it for you:

            a. One buys a gun in Michigan
            b. One takes gun to Chicago

            This is your brain on drugs.

        3. jdelcjr says:

          What about Bloombergs comment That there is no debate among the American people. What does he call this. There are debates all over the internet. They both lie to push their agenda. It’s not going to work.

          1. ckehoss says:

            Where gun violence is concentrated: It’s not where you might think, moron.

            “Despite Friday’s slaughter of innocents in Newtown, Conn., it turns out that gun violence isn’t particularly common in that state. Per-capita firearm homicides are about average compared to other U.S. states, and Connecticut actually gets high marks from the Brady Center to Prevent Gun Violence, whose score card rates it fifth best in the nation for its legislative efforts to keep dangerous weapons out of the hands of criminals.”

            http://articles.latimes.com/2012/dec/20/news/la-ol-gun-homicide-states-20121220

          2. ckehoss says:

            “However, gun ownership rates are inversely correlated with educational attainment.”
            http://www.classwarfareexists.com/nate-silver-gun-ownership-rates-are-inversely-correlated-with-educational-attainment/

      2. Euwe says:

        ere – let me post a definition from http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/mortally

        mor·tal·ly adverb \ˈmȯr-təl-ē\
        Definition of MORTALLY

        1
        : in a deadly or fatal manner : to death
        2
        : to an extreme degree : intensely
        Examples of MORTALLY


        First Known Use of MORTALLY

        14th century

        Here’s a definition from a public dictionary on the web: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mortally_wounded

        mortally wounded
        A mortal wound is a very severe and serious injury (almost always a form of penetration or laceration) whether accidental or inflicted intentionally (by either suicide or homicide), which leads directly to the death of the victim. Death need not be instantaneous, but follows soon after. If proper medical treatment is provided immediately, the victim has a chance of survival, at which point the wound retroactively becomes non-mortal. However, even with prompt medical intervention, there is still a strong likelihood that the victim will not survive.

        Severe contusion leading to death is more commonly described as a fatal blow or a mortal blow, which is also more widely used when one or both of the injury or death aremetaphorical. While mortal wound is only strictly inappropriate when discussing a literal death not related to any penetrating or lacerating injury (by poison, for instance), it is simply uncommon in relation to failure or defeat.

        Here’s the definition from Collins English dictionary: http://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/mortally?showCookiePolicy=true

        mortally (ˈmɔːtəlɪ)

        adverb

        in such a way as to cause or threaten death ⇒ He falls, mortally wounded. ⇒ mortally ill
        to a very great extent or degree ⇒ Candida admits to having been `mortally embarrassed’. ⇒ mortally afraid ⇒ If you said that to his face, he would be mortally offended.

        1. Lynn says:

          Or you could expand that a bit and use a more complete definition and you would find that YOU are the ignorant one, not the Vice President
          http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/mortally?s=t

          mor·tal
          [mawr-tl] Show IPA

          adjective
          1.
          subject to death; having a transitory life: all mortal creatures.

          2.
          of or pertaining to human beings as subject to death; human: this mortal life.

          3.
          belonging to this world.

          4.
          deadly or implacable; relentless: a mortal enemy.

          5.
          severe, dire, grievous, or bitter: in mortal fear.

          If you don’t think she suffered a severe, dire or grievous injury then you are delusional.

    2. Pat says:

      It just shows he’s lost it. If he ever even had it. These people who represent us for a living need to be accurate and stand behind their claims. Some call this rhetoric? Was it also rhetoric reporting Maxine Waters claiming sequester will cut 175 million jobs? Trying to scare americans. Thank god media has no limits anymore with the invention of social networking.

      1. ckehoss says:

        It is rhetoric if it is meant to stir the incompetent. It is responsible journalism when one gives only facts that are relevant to the message that was interpreted.

        1. Steve says:

          Ckehoss, case in point…..your response to prove that the incompetent will respond. You really make it too easy lib.

      2. Shea Joy says:

        ckehoss, Did you bother to read the definition? Biden’s words are intended to penetrate the minds of the morally corrupt with facts. But what’s the use with people like you? You need more than a dictionary–your own comment is unintelligible, but I don’t need to know exactly what you’re trying to say to know if’s not worth my time to parse out.

    3. anthony says:

      There is no goodwill in any of this. They are preying on the ignorance of the uneducated in regards to firearms. In fact we do not have, normally, military weapons on our streets unless you count the police departments that are arming up with tanks and so forth. The AR-15 isn’t even a military rifle. It is a semi-automatic clone of a military rifle. with that argument, and the fact that a lot of military sidearms are chambered in 9mm, then all 9mm handguns are military weapons. Doesn’t make much sense does it? The only reason you have your right to critisize any pro-gun citizen is becasue of all of us pro-gun citizens. Once our ability to fight back is taken away I want you to pay close attention to what happens to the rest of your rights afterwards. They will always find a good logical excuse to alter, or remove our rights as they see fit depending on their convenience. What is stoping them from just arresting every person who openly criticizes their policies? How about the fact that they have no idea who is armed and who isn’t, or what they are armed with. Once they know who has what they will take everything including all of your rights to talk shit on the internet because there will be nothing stoping them. Oh, but the constitution forbids them from doing that, right? It also forbids the infringement of other rights that are this very second under fire and in danger of being altered for the worse forever. Who says that after they won;t do the same for the 4th amendment (already done btw), or the first amendment (ever been to a college campus?) or any other of our precious god-given rights. once they know they can get away with it then it will never stop.

      1. ckehoss says:

        Uhmm, thanks for making my point for me. I said “listen”, not give up your gun. I carry too. I SAID “LEARN TO LISTEN”

        1. Steve says:

          Ckehoss, case in point…..your response to prove that the incompetent will respond. You really make it too easy lib.

    4. chamuiel says:

      We don’t want heartfelt.

      We want common sense and logic. Try that for a change.

      1. ckehoss says:

        There is a clause in the laws that says I have a God Given right to feel. Sorry, you have not scored any points with the logic anecdote. We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness

  2. Thomas says:

    Listen fellow Americans…. This guy is a idiot. This is not his first gaff. As far as gun rights go the 2nd admendment is clear it is not about hunting or even self protection but to keep US safe from enemies both foreign and domestic! A free law abiding citizen should have same as those we have working for us. ie police, government

  3. Bo Carter says:

    Joe Biden you got to love this guy. What a sense of humor. All his comments on gun control are just hilarious. You know he doesn’t mean it. No one in an office as high as he holds could be that stupid. As for as Bloomberg trying to control all of NY’s actions, he just needs to choke to death on his big gulp. As rich as you are sir you will not control the actions of the people of the United States. You don’t have a clue how many Americans believe in our constitution and second amendment. Why don’t you give up your super sized security force that protects you, then come ask us to give up our self right of protection. You Hypocritical tyrant.

    1. Tony Harrison says:

      “No one in an office as high as he holds could be that stupid.”

      Have you ever heard of George W. Bush?

      “Rarely is the questioned asked: Is our children learning?” -Florence, South Carolina, Jan. 11, 2000

      “Too many good docs are getting out of the business. Too many OB-GYNs aren’t able to practice their love with women all across this country.” -Poplar Bluff, Mo., Sept. 6, 2004

      “Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we.” -Washington, D.C., Aug. 5, 2004

      “Oh, no, we’re not going to have any casualties.” -discussing the Iraq war with Christian Coalition founder Pat Robertson in 2003, as quoted by Robertson

      “And they have no disregard for human life.” –George W. Bush, on the brutality of Afghan fighters, Washington, D.C., July 15, 2008

      “Amigo! Amigo!” –George W. Bush, calling out to ITALIAN Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi

      “I’ve abandoned free market principles to save the free market system.”

      “I’m telling you there’s an enemy that would like to attack America, Americans, again. There just is. That’s the reality of the world. And I wish him all the very best.”

      “In terms of the economy, look, I inherited a recession, I am ending on a recession.”

      1. ckehoss says:

        I was once asked if I would put myself in harms way to confiscate these unnecessary weapons and I replied:

        “All you need is a liberal blog, and watch the little twerps come out. They LOVE to talk about their guns and so very easy to spot” LOL Point and case, this blog.

      2. Bo says:

        The left is doing a good job dividing this country. Talking about taking away our second admendment rights. This would be great in a perfect world however, you are going to have to wait till you get to the perfect world. Confiscation of our second admendment rights will problally get you to the perfect world a little quicker. Protect our constitional rights and bring our country back togather.

      3. Angela says:

        We’re well aware of the mistakes made by the Bush regime, however this article focuses on the CURRENT administration which has been in office for 4.5+ years. Isn’t this ‘Bush did this, Bush did that’ rhetoric a bit outdated at this point? The issue at hand is not Bush; personally I’m sick and tired of this common leftist tactic placing focus on anything else rather than the mess we have currently. Will the time EVER arrive when the current administration is forced to take responsibility for their actions? With all the continuous finger pointing going on it’s beginning to look like a liberal ping pong party. No wonder nothing important is ever resolved, how can it be? When the focus is constantly on mistakes in the past, the current day and the future is totally ignored. I guess that’s the point though isn’t it?

      4. Bo says:

        Yes in deed I’ve heard of George Bush, I use to work for him. I was making fun of VP Biden for every time he opens his mouth he sticks both feet in it. But seriously what is happening today is no laughing matter. How we ever elected this two term TelePrompTer reader is beyond me. I know we all wanted Change but not like this. His inability to be a world leader does not exist. He has made us look so bad and weakened our image that we may never recover. He is tearing our nation apart from the inside and globally. His arrogance and dictatorship ways are going to cause the downfall of the greatest nation on earth. As he is ripping away at our freedoms which will not be tolerated by “we the people” is being watched by the world. Dividing this country is just the opportunity that our enemies are waiting for. We were not ready for the gulf war however, we pulled together for the cause but barely scraped our way through. When the big deal starts with Iran, half the Middle East, Korea and China we all have Barrack Insane Obama to thank for our downfall or total destruction. WWIII coming during his term. America’s last president.

  4. Crewmax42 says:

    Giffords died? And, it’s not in the news?

  5. charles says:

    99.9% of all guns in the United States are NOT used in any crime. When guns were outlawed in britain armed robbery shot up 4O%. Come on democrats…. quit acting like you know what every person in the U.S needs. We all have to individual right to choose to own a weapon or not

    1. ckehoss says:

      Uhmmm, it is not 1797 and the British are not coming! LOL

      1. Bo says:

        Lol. No your right the British are not coming. But, Korea, Iran, China and the rest of the Middle East is. They are just waiting for us to become a little more divided and our corrupt politicians to continue dividing us and destroying our economy and America will be no more. Just wait we are getting closer every day. They will swoop in and take over so fast our government will not even make it to their hiding spots.

      2. Steve says:

        …..and if we search long and hard, we may actually find some relevance to your comment. Sheesh !!

        1. Bo says:

          Well Steve , we will just see now wont we. Are you better off now than 6 yrs ago. If so you must be a democrate or a politician or even better both. Good luck I hope you have a room at NORAD. Lol

  6. Angela says:

    Wake up America, these situations have one common component.to remove the PEOPLE’S right to bear arms. By limiting LEGAL access to arms does nothing to temper violence. The people must be able to defend themselves, it is a constitutional right, an important one. I see a few posters obviously under the influence of a liberal agenda by way of a no longer free media, and a large amount of corrupt, anti-constitutional politicians and policies. Biden is an idiot, a soul-less, narcissistic politician operating on his own hubris filled agenda, as many of them are. As for Bloomberg, try asking the victims of Sandy about his real agenda. He’s more concerned with restricting access to soda than he is to exercising any kind of political ‘good’. Both of these men are useless corrupt career politicians, who have no concern for anything other than their own feeble character, or better put lack there of. Good grief, I’m appalled at the lack of clarity in so many Americans. They seem to be led by their politically manipulated emotions rather than good common sense. Unfortunately because of this, all of us who actually see the problem will suffer right along with them.

    1. ckehoss says:

      I pack a gun too but refuse to run like a scared little rabbit to protect myself from unforeseen “British are Coming” paranoia. You, however are welcome to have the mentality as it is a free country. “Git yer musket Vern and head back to yer trailer before they git a chance to take it from ya!” LOL

      1. Thomas says:

        I guess you dont live in NY Cuomo has set up a snitch line to turn in your neighbor if they think you have a so called assalt rifle. Which is just a semi auto rifle. Wake up! Lib tard

        1. ckehoss says:

          real mature. I am a conservative tard. LOL

          1. Thomas says:

            If your a conservative why would you ever infringe on the 2 nd admenent? I took a oath 35 years ago when I swore in to the Coast Guard to defend the Constitution and that means never take it litely.

          2. ckehoss says:

            I am not going after the 2nd amendment, just trying to put a dent in the amount of muskets the bad guys are getting

          3. Thomas says:

            There are laws on the books now to get weapons from criminals. The law abiding citizens shall keep the right to have weapons. Dont disarm the good guys then only the criminals will be armed. I went to bed on 1/14/13 a free man and woke up a criminal because Gov Cuomo passed a law in the middle of the night. That is not how a free state should be governed.

          4. ckehoss says:

            it has become obvious that supplying the good guys has also supplied the bad guys. Your gun will be grandfathered however, make sure you have a “will” and a plan as to who is responsible for your weapon in case of your death or absence.

          5. Thomas says:

            The so called SAFE act in NY has no grandfather claus. You see NY is the front line for gun rights and yes the progressives are comming.

          6. Thomas. says:

            The so called SAFE act in NY has no grandfather claus. You see NY is the front line for gun rights and yes the progressives are comming.

          7. Bo says:

            No country is easier to destroy and concur than one that is divided. So says Korea, Iran, and China. Bye bye America. Thanks King Obama and your cronies.

    2. Bo says:

      You are right on Angela. It’s a shame the left can’t see for themselves. They are blindly following to their own demise. Some follow, some lead and all we have is a telaprompter reader. What a joke he has turned out to be. Starting with his attempt to destroy our second admendment and start civil unrest in our country. I’ve never been so embarrassed to have a weak poor attempt for a president. The greatest part of this joke is he is not the first black president for our country. He is half black and half white as his parents indicate. So we can still hold hope for a real leader and a real black man.

      1. ckehoss says:

        I would vote for Colin Powell in a heartbeat. See, we have common ground. Two right wings uniting into one.

        1. Bo says:

          Me too. Colin Powell should have made a great president. We would not look weak in the worlds eyes with him standing at the podium. I can not believe we voted for Obama. Just because he was a great campaigner. He never held a real job so I’m told other than a community organizer. My god what have we done. I wanted change you wanted change, but not this! He is a pitiful looking and sounding man when it comes to world security and the strength of our country. He is tearing apart our military, giving weapons and funding to our enemies while they burn our flag. He has his own agenda which is not strengthening our country. He will go down in history as the worst president, leader in the free world. Lets hope we don’t see nukes crossing our sky’s before he’s out of office. God bless

      2. Angela says:

        @Bo, agreed. I have no problem with race in regard to the presidency there were a few excellent pre-candidates..my favorite was Allan West. It’s unfortunate Obama slithered his way into the WH, but by stealth not through the proper channels. In some swing states in this last election, not one vote was cast for the conservative contender. That’s mathematically impossible. Sad days before us…

  7. Angela says:

    @ ckhoss, first of all I see nothing funny about this serious issue, your lol’ing is arrogant, deprecating and insensitive. Secondly, restricting legal weapons to legal Americans does not in any way reduce the violence most of us are concerned with. The criminal faction does not generally acquire weaponry through legal avenues, you know that and so do I. I’ve come to the conclusion that you pose as a conservative but your obvious inclination is a leftist progressive mindset intending to create the responses you see before you. I’m only posting to you once because I have neither the interest nor desire to feed your love of contention and intended debility in the responders. It’s really troubling to most of us that there is this particular mindset setting us all at odds with our once free America and the rights we have been accustomed to. When I read the dribble you’ve posted I usually just move on disregarding the obvious and scurrilous intent. This time however I’m taking the opportunity to redress your objective, the issue at hand being that important to most of us. You attempt to hinder American life, freedom and safety, shame on you and your self-adulating agenda. Perhaps you should run for a Senate position, or perhaps you already have one…with that being said I prefer to focus on those of us with an intact value system which you are clearly lacking.

    1. ckehoss says:

      Per the rambling of Angela:
      Yes, I have a right to protect myself from people like you as well. I have a right to protect our children, especially if your right is affecting their rights. Get over it. weh weh weh

      1. Angela says:

        Dear ‘noticeablejewels’…well that says it all now doesn’t it? I surely nailed the hubris part…I’m astounded by your lack of maturity. I posted as an adult, your re-post had the mentality of a spoiled elitist adolescent. Your comment lacks logic; how can you possibly imply the 2nd amendment, which by the way was born by our founding fathers and not me, somehow infringes on the rights of children? (Unless you’re referring to yourself). Good grief, anyway this is exactly why I avoid commentaries to the intellectually unarmed all dressed up in conservative ‘costume’ with an obvious liberal agenda (aka a raging liberal in conservative clothing). Silly woman. Shouldn’t you be doing something more akin to you, like shoe shopping?? People like me..lol, now that was funny!

        1. ckehoss says:

          At least, I act like a woman as opposed to a transgender trying to pass as a woman. Angela, it takes more that just putting women’s clothes on if you are really going to catch a man. You gotta stop with the manly blind alliances because real men are not afraid to show their sensitive sides. Also, a real woman protects her children by talking softly and carrying a big stick. Don’t worry though, the operation is not a total loss for you, the hormone pills will kick in soon so that the whiskers go away on their own.

          1. Angela says:

            Oh my, now I’m a transgender? Was it my ability to pose a rational premise and rebuttal in adult terms that gave my (trans) gender away? Gee I’ll have to fix that. Does saying ‘weh weh weh’ denote me as female? I didn’t get that memo as a young girl, I’ll be sure and tell my mom how lacking in girly ‘stuff’ my adolescent years were. How did this discussion turn from gun control to ‘how to get a man’? Dear one, I’m fully a woman with an abundance of GENUINE sensitivity, but that absolute can only be understood by those women who’s base operation consists of more than a bad bleach job. I talk softly AND rationally to my child, and I do not carry a big stick. I needn’t intimidate to get my point across…honest communication works just fine in my home. I must say however, even I am surprised you would resort to these tactics…defame the opposing viewpoint with invalid and dishonest attacks, rather than respond with some element of truth based on merit. What exactly does ‘manly blind alliances mean’? Men have blind alliances (Stevie Wonder?), or my position as patriot regarding the 2nd amendment makes me manly, insensitive and blind? Or, unless I agree with you and speak the same kind of language (shoot me if I do that, death is better than conducting myself like a disgruntled child..weh weh will never be a part of my vocabulary) I will grow a mustache? Since you brought up hormonal therapy, I’m looking at this as a possible Freudian slip…take care with that, estrogen will not solve your little problem. As silly as you can obviously be, I expected more than this re-post you authored. Seems I struck some sensitive core giving your inflated ego the opportunity to pen your response. Next time take a deep breath and think, thinking is good, then post. Wow after all this I nearly forgot the subject matter..oh right, Gun Control and NOT a lesson on narcissistic cheerleaders turned pompous housewives. Here’s a clue: women with minds can be beautiful, fully feminine and strong (it’s the strong part that bothers you isn’t it..use a juicer, keeps the mind and body fluid, toned and happy). : )

          2. ckehoss says:

            Angela:
            Calm down, must have hit a nerve with the transgender comment. It is ok, everyone gets to exercise their 1st amendment rights as well as their 2nd amendment rights. Just try to keep your responses to something a little shorter than a novel if you want someone to hear you. Also, I bet you are a great looking man.

          3. carole says:

            Wow, ckehoss, what an immature female you are. Name calling is always one of the last resorts taken by liberals who find themselves backed into a corner by others whose arguments are more intelligent. You can exercise all your rights all you want, but using them to call names to another woman is just indicative of your immaturity.

          4. ckehoss says:

            no, I am trying to communicate in the only form that the gun advocate can understand. Traits of the gun advocate are:

            ELITISTS – Elitists frequently identify with a peer group based on wealth, power, rank, social status, occupation, education, ethnic group, etc. and perceive themselves and their peers as inherently superior to and more responsible than the “common people”, thus more deserving of gun rights.
            AUTHORITARIANS – Authoritarian personalities are characterized by their belief in unquestioning obedience to an authority figure or group and a disdain for individual freedom of action, expression, judgment regarding their entitlement to carry.
            CRIMINALS- It goes without saying that career criminals would like to see the public disarmed for obvious reasons
            THE FEARFUL – Cowards by definition are easily or excessively frightened by things and situations that are recognized as happening on a constant basis. Cowards seek out tame enemies against whom they can ply their pitiful brand of machismo. A lack of self discipline drives them from physically lash out against mere verbal assailants, however obnoxious they may be.
            IDEOLOGICAL CHAMELIONS – Ideological chameleons follow the simple social strategy of sparking gun controversy and confrontation by espousing the beliefs of the people in their immediate vicinity or advocating the philosophy of those who scream the loudest in a debate.
            SECURITY MONOPOLISTS – Concerns that mandate the means of self protection out of others hands so that they can command high fees for protecting the citizenry against the rising tide of crime or create an unnecessary need of their talents.
            THE DISFUNCTIONAL UNWORLDLY – types are truly perplexed at the very notion anything other than firearms ownership with regard to defense because tyranny and crime are things that are happening in their “civilized” universe every second of the day.

          5. ckehoss says:

            no, I am trying to communicate in the only form that the gun advocate can understand. Traits of the gun advocate are:

            ELITISTS – Elitists frequently identify with a peer group based on wealth, power, rank, social status, occupation, education, ethnic group, etc. and perceive themselves and their peers as inherently superior to and more responsible than the “common people”, thus more deserving of gun rights.
            AUTHORITARIANS – Authoritarian personalities are characterized by their belief in unquestioning obedience to an authority figure or group and a disdain for individual freedom of action, expression, judgment regarding their entitlement to carry.
            CRIMINALS- It goes without saying that career criminals would like to see the public disarmed for obvious reasons
            THE FEARFUL – Cowards by definition are easily or excessively frightened by things and situations that are recognized as happening on a constant basis. Cowards seek out tame enemies against whom they can ply their pitiful brand of machismo. A lack of self discipline drives them from physically lash out against mere verbal assailants, however obnoxious they may be.
            IDEOLOGICAL CHAMELEONS – Ideological chameleons follow the simple social strategy of sparking gun controversy and confrontation by espousing the beliefs of the people in their immediate vicinity or advocating the philosophy of those who scream the loudest in a debate.
            SECURITY MONOPOLISTS – Concerns that mandate the means of self protection out of others hands so that they can command high fees for protecting the citizenry against the rising tide of crime or create an unnecessary need of their talents.
            THE DYSFUNCTIONAL UNWORLDLY – types are truly perplexed at the very notion anything other than firearms ownership with regard to defense because tyranny and crime are things that are happening in their “civilized” universe every second of the day.

  8. JAGOCB says:

    People like ckehoss are what’s wrong with our country today. She carries, but feels others should be limited or not allowed.

    1. ckehoss says:

      get over it, you know, deal. Yes I pack and do not mind limitations. I cannot and would not want a bazooka in my kids classroom. End of story, hillbillly

    2. Angela says:

      I agree. She is on a rant, and utilizes insults rather than anything of any import. The elitist mentality always uses the ‘do what I say and not what I do mantra’ (see Obama), then the tired and should be retired, ‘bait and switch’ (see the entire leftist platform). Happily she’s not adept at either, just a need to win an argument by any means necessary. Here is some comedic light in her darkness though, at least she called you a hillbilly and you were very polite, I’m supposedly a transgender, but I was not so polite.oops! .lol… Anyway, when the leftist mentality is challenged the true character rages…in this case the ‘mean girl’ arises! On to another important topic, have you heard Dr. Ben Carson yet? If not, do. He is a man of integrity and common sense, the type we need in this cesspool of political corruption..we can still hope, at least that can never be controlled. God bless our America.

        1. Angela says:

          “To conquer a nation, first disarm its citizens”. Adolf Hitler, 1933.

          1. ckehoss says:

            Include me in the group that finds absolutely no meaning in that comparison with Hitler, Joe Biden and the mortally wounded. Maybe you could tie this one in for us.

          2. Angela says:

            I wasn’t making a comparison. It was a quote which in my opinion, embodies the dangers surrounding an unarmed ‘legal’ populous -an ordinary citizenry-when faced with tyranny. I’m not comparing Obama or Biden to Hitler, I’m quoting the beginning strategy of an oppressor who turned Germany and its people into a hell hole of Fascism, aptly named Fatherland. Nation state as deity, the immortal nation ‘utopia’ that grew and fell with Hitler’s occult based leadership. If you’re referring to the mortality remark by Biden, he’s just a fool who has no ability or no desire to state a truth. Either that or he hasn’t a good read on the actual meaning of the words he uses. Mortality is death, the end, except where Biden is concerned. One cannot suffer a mortal wound, there is no recovery…that’s all there was to that. Your question was unclear or perhaps I just missed the point altogether? I’m not sure, and this is not sarcasm on my part. Look at this, I responded without writing a 50 page dissertation!! That’s why I can’ Twitter…long winded..

        2. Angela says:

          Edit: can’t twitter..

          1. ckehoss says:

            I was once asked if I would put myself in harms way to confiscate these unnecessary weapons and I replied:

            “All you need is a liberal blog, and watch the little twerps come out. They LOVE to talk about their guns and so very easy to spot” LOL Point and case, this blog.

  9. Bo says:

    If she is for a free United States and believes in the constitution especially the second admendment, she’s got my vote.

  10. Bo says:

    I’m sorry for the confusion. I did not mean to write this comment as if it was directed to you. This is a very sore topic with me since I use to live there. I meant to say that I do not believe it is a myth. I worked as a DOD employee where I learned very well how to munipulate figures to read the way you want. To make anything come out in your favor. I did not mean to have sound like I was disputing you especially since you are a gun owner and a concealed carrier. This is such a touchy subject that means a lot when the government is taking away our rights that established this country. Right on to legal gun owners and the rest of you have rights to not own if that’s what you desire. Attacking legal gun owners rights who abide by the law. What our government is doing is in constitutional. They are lying and using under mining ways to deliberately hurt us. I just know heard the government is having agency’s buying up millions of dollars of small arms ammo in an attempt to render us defenseless. This is not the free America I grew up and fought for.

  11. Texas Belle says:

    You would vote for Colin Powell?? He is a RHINO of the first class. And he voted for Obama. How about the new man on the scene, Dr. Ben Carson? Now there is a black man who has the right ideas and who would LEAD this nation in the right way. Neither a Liberal nor a Conservative, he is a THINKER, something that Obama could never be. Obama is not a leader, he is a Liberal hack who can’t think without a Teleprompter and who wants to destroy the freedoms we have enjoyed for over 200 years. He is a Muslim dictator wannabe who is a foreigner in the USA.

    1. Angela says:

      Yes!! Dr. Carson has something Obama and the rest of these castrated serfs in our administration don’t have..integrity, morality and common sense. I was literally blown away by his off the cuff speech in front of Obama and crew. The administration requested a synopsis of his intended speech prior to him giving it, and he gave them a few Psalms and told them those would be the basis of what he would speak on. He was majestic, and didn’t need a teleprompter like the psychopathic twit we have running this country. If that”s what you want to call it anyway..running it into the ground is more like it…

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